You may remember Steve Rio from episode 35, the longest episode ever recorded on the podcast. His calm and charismatic nature just makes him one of those people you can have endless conversations with. In this episode, Joss meets Steve at his guest home on Bowen Island for a post-hike and post-cedarwood sauna conversation. Tune in to our first podcast off Zoom, where Steve Rio tells you as it is, with meaningful insights on why we should orient our decisions by listening to our body, what crippling technology habits are actually doing to us, and everything else in between. 



  • The role technology plays in rewiring our sense of time, place, and mental space 
  • What does success look like at the end of the day 
  • Using your body is a resource, over your mind
  • Discussing the effects of dopamine depletion and decision making 
  • BLM movement and the social space
  • Introducing “Nature of Work”, a fundamental tool for cultivating daily habits 


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